Deliver Delight: Why Native Mobile Matters
Users are unforgiving when it comes to their mobile experiences—85% of people are unlikely to do business with a company following a bad mobile experience. Can you afford to not be delivering true native mobile apps?
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Hello and welcome to low code and 30[00:00:03.160]
I’m Jeff Goldberg, part of the evangelist[00:00:05.330]
team at Bendix.[00:00:06.969]
In this webinar, we’re going to discuss[00:00:09.150]
native mobile applications[00:00:11.359]
and why they’re key to enhancing[00:00:13.410]
your employees work experience[00:00:15.410]
and how men dicks eases native[00:00:17.570]
mobile app development[00:00:18.850]
so you can accelerate your business[00:00:22.480]
Loco and 30 is a monthly webinar, Siri’s[00:00:25.170]
dedicated to educating business, and[00:00:27.429]
I t on the benefits of low[00:00:29.480]
code application development.[00:00:31.929]
You may watch any of our previous webinars[00:00:34.329]
on the medics YouTube channel[00:00:36.100]
or visit www[00:00:38.340]
dot mend IX dot com.[00:00:40.579]
Ford slash demos.[00:00:43.439]
We’ve covered a range of topics over[00:00:45.460]
the past year, including citizen Development,[00:00:48.060]
I ot[00:00:49.140]
Dev ops[00:00:50.229]
Aye, aye and machine learning[00:00:51.829]
as well as multi experience platforms[00:00:54.600]
of which will drill into a bit further today[00:00:57.030]
with our discussion on Native Mobile.[00:01:01.270]
Today, our journey begins on the topic[00:01:03.579]
of experience.[00:01:05.439]
Customer experience. To be more specific[00:01:08.609]
from there, will travel into the mobile[00:01:10.739]
application development world and[00:01:12.859]
learn about the different options available[00:01:15.390]
and why men dicks low code approach[00:01:17.629]
to native mobile development[00:01:19.319]
is a customer experience game changer,[00:01:22.599]
then a first for low code and 30[00:01:25.219]
I’ll be joined by Yost Landman[00:01:27.159]
from Rob a bank, and we’ll talk about[00:01:29.159]
robbing banks, journey with Bendix and the[00:01:31.189]
experience his team is having making[00:01:33.489]
native Mobile applications with Bendix.[00:01:37.920]
In one of my past jobs,[00:01:39.939]
I had the pleasure of working for a[00:01:41.950]
restaurant chain of bakery cafes[00:01:44.299]
who made it a point[00:01:45.939]
to make the experience of going[00:01:47.980]
to their stores feel like entering[00:01:50.620]
an everyday oasis.[00:01:53.090]
What this meant, of course, is that when a customer[00:01:55.569]
walks into a store,[00:01:57.200]
ah, warmth swirls around them[00:01:59.329]
along with the smell of fresh baked[00:02:01.340]
goods, making them feel[00:02:03.700]
like they’re part of a community[00:02:05.840]
and in a place where they can relax[00:02:08.069]
from the stresses of the day.[00:02:10.840]
Back in the early two thousands,[00:02:12.960]
this concept of customer experience[00:02:15.830]
it existed.[00:02:17.340]
But it wasn’t as in your face as it is[00:02:19.539]
today.[00:02:21.039]
When you look around[00:02:22.419]
customer experiences in something as[00:02:24.530]
small as the design on top of a cappuccino,[00:02:28.270]
the efficiency for which we can transact[00:02:30.330]
business,[00:02:31.580]
the memories made fresh again through nostalgia[00:02:34.969]
to the wonder the world of virtual reality[00:02:37.580]
conjures to life[00:02:41.530]
in 2018[00:02:43.139]
customer experiences with your brand[00:02:45.379]
started with an interaction on[00:02:47.580]
a mobile phone[00:02:48.770]
more than 50% of the time.[00:02:52.439]
Well, that may be via a website.[00:02:55.020]
Once the customer is engaged,[00:02:57.569]
they expect the more refined[00:03:00.060]
experience, a dedicated mobile[00:03:02.099]
app that’s interactive and fluid,[00:03:04.900]
ready to make their life easier.[00:03:08.000]
The goal here for the APP maker is stickiness,[00:03:11.039]
and it’s in these first touch points where[00:03:13.110]
customer perceptions are cemented[00:03:15.689]
and become very difficult to change[00:03:17.979]
over time.[00:03:19.639]
In fact, in a recent poll,[00:03:21.939]
almost 85% of respondents[00:03:24.590]
stated that they are unlikely[00:03:26.599]
to repeat engaging with companies[00:03:28.939]
offering a poor mobile experience.[00:03:33.139]
And over 30% of those respondents[00:03:36.000]
stated they would tell others[00:03:38.169]
about the negative experience.[00:03:40.610]
With network effects like that, it’s clear[00:03:43.610]
customer experience is a key differentiator[00:03:46.620]
for the success of brands.[00:03:50.439]
At this point, you may be saying,[00:03:52.469]
so what? Who cares?[00:03:54.539]
We won’t sell directly to external customers.[00:03:57.669]
Customer experience is for someone else[00:03:59.710]
to worry about.[00:04:01.840]
Okay,[00:04:02.939]
that’s fair.[00:04:04.439]
But what about your internal customers?[00:04:06.840]
Your employees,[00:04:10.039]
your employees are customers of lift,[00:04:12.900]
Amazon,[00:04:14.039]
Apple,[00:04:15.039]
Google,[00:04:16.110]
Microsoft[00:04:17.300]
Pinterest[00:04:18.339]
and many more brands they see[00:04:20.529]
every day on their mobile phones.[00:04:23.040]
These companies are raising the stakes for[00:04:25.110]
success in the marketplace because they[00:04:27.199]
obsessively focus on customer[00:04:29.250]
experience.[00:04:30.839]
Consequently,[00:04:32.100]
your employees expect better[00:04:34.529]
customer experiences from the Alps,[00:04:36.750]
the use for work[00:04:39.100]
and when they have to do things manually[00:04:41.329]
or log into multiple systems to see[00:04:43.470]
despair, it data[00:04:45.000]
it impacts their engagement[00:04:47.009]
with your company[00:04:48.240]
and with your customers.[00:04:52.339]
I’ll give you an example that serves as a[00:04:54.410]
great transition into the native mobile[00:04:56.579]
part of our conversation today.[00:04:59.220]
Recently,[00:05:00.259]
some of my colleagues were riding up the elevator[00:05:03.079]
to our office.[00:05:05.040]
They were standing next to a field service[00:05:07.209]
worker delivering packages[00:05:09.560]
to the offices in the building.[00:05:12.639]
She had three[00:05:14.339]
yes, three mobile devices in[00:05:16.360]
her hands,[00:05:17.839]
all of them necessary for her to do[00:05:19.879]
her job.[00:05:21.639]
Why,[00:05:23.089]
she said that her job required[00:05:25.649]
data from each one of the[00:05:27.709]
devices.[00:05:29.240]
And while headquarters can see the[00:05:31.279]
data from all three[00:05:32.959]
in one interface,[00:05:35.139]
she’s left toe eyeball[00:05:38.040]
data from one[00:05:39.730]
device to the other[00:05:41.540]
and try to correlate the correct information[00:05:44.410]
related[00:05:45.500]
to where she’s going[00:05:46.870]
and what she’s delivery.[00:05:49.939]
Part of this may be due[00:05:52.439]
thio each device having a special attachment[00:05:54.759]
like some sort of scanner[00:05:56.329]
or a special app that’s designed[00:05:58.790]
for a specific purpose.[00:06:02.290]
Nevertheless,[00:06:03.769]
the friction created from this user[00:06:05.870]
experience[00:06:06.980]
this internal customer experience[00:06:09.439]
has a negative effect from end[00:06:11.629]
to end on the experience chain.[00:06:14.949]
This is where low code and native mobile[00:06:17.230]
come together and solve this problem,[00:06:19.660]
propelling customer experience from the reactive[00:06:22.720]
to the proactive.[00:06:30.009]
Regarding mobile application development,[00:06:32.420]
there are a lot of flavors to choose[00:06:34.439]
from for creating, developing[00:06:36.949]
in making[00:06:38.240]
applications.[00:06:39.939]
But four[00:06:41.339]
different styles stand out today[00:06:43.829]
as the main types[00:06:45.329]
of applications that a developer[00:06:47.579]
or anyone can create.[00:06:51.839]
Native mobile applications, sometimes[00:06:53.930]
called pure native mobile,[00:06:55.750]
are developed using traditional coding languages.[00:06:58.740]
Objective C and Swift for IOS[00:07:01.620]
and Java and Conklin for Android.[00:07:05.040]
Pure native mobile applications offer superior[00:07:07.610]
performance and the tightest integration[00:07:09.759]
with device capabilities[00:07:11.569]
because the languages are optimized[00:07:13.579]
for the operating systems.[00:07:16.269]
The tradeoff is that the pure native[00:07:18.439]
application development[00:07:20.189]
isn’t cross platform,[00:07:21.930]
so you have to maintain two separate code bases,[00:07:24.639]
often using separate development teams.[00:07:27.610]
Puree native is expensive because[00:07:29.689]
it takes more time, resource is[00:07:31.709]
and specialized skills[00:07:33.800]
to build and maintain[00:07:37.839]
hybrid applications are more like a website[00:07:40.110]
for mobile than a true app.[00:07:42.540]
they use HTML, CSS and[00:07:44.720]
JavaScript to create an experience[00:07:46.959]
wrapped in what is called a Web. You[00:07:49.279]
tow work on mobile devices[00:07:51.009]
and be packaged for APP store distribution.[00:07:54.339]
Hybrid applications, Air Cross platform[00:07:56.540]
using frameworks like Cordova and[00:07:58.550]
Phone Gap. To wrap the application and[00:08:00.779]
provide access to device capabilities,[00:08:04.139]
hybrid APS take less time to make[00:08:06.329]
and maintain[00:08:07.709]
impure native APS.[00:08:09.879]
Unfortunately,[00:08:11.220]
developer efficiency gains result[00:08:13.250]
in subpar user experience.[00:08:16.089]
In addition, the rise of progressive[00:08:18.370]
Web, APS and React native[00:08:20.430]
are demonstrating that Cordova and Phone[00:08:22.629]
Gap are showing their age and[00:08:24.750]
waning support among the community.[00:08:30.029]
Progressive Web APS are an advancement on[00:08:32.120]
the hybrid approach. However. They’re[00:08:34.259]
designed to run in standard Internet[00:08:36.409]
browsers like Chrome,[00:08:38.509]
which makes them cross platform.[00:08:41.429]
Progressive Web APS aimed to deliver an[00:08:43.539]
experience similar to a native app,[00:08:45.809]
using service workers connecting the[00:08:47.840]
APP to device capabilities.[00:08:50.440]
P W ays deliver a smooth[00:08:52.710]
user experience and work even[00:08:55.000]
when end users aren’t proud Sing.[00:08:57.220]
Because of these service workers,[00:09:00.440]
PW ways aren’t without trade offs[00:09:02.919]
because they aren’t native code.[00:09:05.110]
They drain the battery faster.[00:09:07.330]
In addition, while P W ays[00:09:09.350]
offer access to device capabilities,[00:09:12.000]
it’s inconsistent and dozen support[00:09:14.399]
all the features. Native APS do[00:09:20.110]
react. Native is a job, a script library[00:09:22.759]
that makes it possible to create mobile[00:09:25.080]
applications that are nearly indistinguishable[00:09:28.049]
from native applications. Made[00:09:30.100]
using Objective C or Java.[00:09:33.019]
It’s directly native, which means react[00:09:35.309]
native ties directly into[00:09:37.559]
native code, toe access, OS styling[00:09:40.070]
and device capabilities.[00:09:42.740]
Because it’s JavaScript[00:09:44.580]
reactive, it’s cross platform[00:09:47.240]
development is faster and less expensive,[00:09:50.139]
and there are many more developers with JavaScript[00:09:52.679]
skills than pure need of[00:09:54.700]
experience.[00:09:57.019]
Standing up a react Native project is[00:09:59.100]
challenging because the library itself doesn’t[00:10:01.379]
have Dev ops built into it.[00:10:04.120]
While of react. Native has a large and diverse[00:10:06.340]
ecosystem of components and native[00:10:08.620]
device integrations.[00:10:10.330]
Getting into the native code may be necessary[00:10:12.840]
from time to time[00:10:14.210]
if what is needed has not been done[00:10:16.409]
before.[00:10:20.340]
So I’ve been talking a lot about the different types[00:10:22.899]
of[00:10:23.929]
frameworks and technologies you can[00:10:26.029]
use to make mobile applications.[00:10:28.139]
But what does that have to do with men? Dicks?[00:10:31.139]
Well, medics being a low code[00:10:33.210]
application development platform and[00:10:35.600]
a general purpose one at that[00:10:37.539]
actually gives you the possibility to[00:10:39.679]
make[00:10:40.879]
a number of these different types of[00:10:43.000]
mobile applications in one[00:10:45.490]
project from a single Kobe’s.[00:10:48.080]
So with men dicks, it’s possible to make[00:10:50.370]
hybrid applications,[00:10:52.090]
progressive Web applications[00:10:54.200]
and now native mobile[00:10:56.279]
applications, all from[00:10:58.720]
the same code base.[00:11:01.039]
How is this possible?[00:11:03.139]
Well, because men Dicks takes a model[00:11:05.429]
driven approach[00:11:06.629]
toe application development. It enables[00:11:09.019]
the platform to abstract[00:11:11.049]
away the complexities of using[00:11:13.669]
these[00:11:14.559]
different mobile application[00:11:16.940]
development technologies.[00:11:19.139]
As a result,[00:11:20.669]
the developer experience is the same[00:11:23.190]
regardless of what type of mobile application[00:11:25.799]
you wish to make.[00:11:27.389]
Furthermore,[00:11:28.840]
because men dicks is extensible,[00:11:31.940]
developers are empowered[00:11:34.100]
toe add capabilities using[00:11:36.340]
code. So using Java script[00:11:38.779]
in this case,[00:11:40.100]
or Java,[00:11:41.440]
which then become reusable dragon[00:11:43.970]
drop widgets and actions that[00:11:46.210]
the rest of the development team can take[00:11:48.320]
advantage of[00:11:51.710]
At medics, we chose to[00:11:53.740]
integrate react native into the[00:11:55.820]
low code development experience that[00:11:58.019]
we pioneered[00:11:59.529]
because we recognize hybrid APS[00:12:02.129]
do not meet the consumer grade[00:12:04.429]
standards[00:12:05.509]
and users expect from[00:12:07.559]
their enterprise applications.[00:12:11.840]
React. Native[00:12:13.039]
has a very high regard[00:12:15.110]
in the tech community, with over 10,000[00:12:17.490]
contributors on get Hub[00:12:19.090]
and has backing from brands like Facebook,[00:12:21.720]
the originators of the framework,[00:12:24.090]
Microsoft[00:12:25.379]
over and many more[00:12:27.799]
companies.[00:12:31.809]
The benefits of bringing men dicks, low[00:12:34.070]
code development capabilities together[00:12:36.659]
with react natives, Native[00:12:38.750]
Mobile application development capabilities[00:12:41.929]
is that[00:12:42.840]
you get all the benefits of react[00:12:44.899]
native. In addition to that,[00:12:47.210]
you get all of the Dev ops[00:12:49.559]
that men dicks brings to bear out of the box.[00:12:52.539]
So all of that hard scaffolding[00:12:54.870]
of new projects for react native[00:12:57.139]
projects[00:12:58.100]
that goes away it’s a simple is just[00:13:00.350]
creating a new app and boom,[00:13:02.519]
you’re right in the environment and your building.[00:13:06.039]
That visual development[00:13:07.600]
with Paige templates, building blocks[00:13:09.659]
and snippets increases[00:13:11.779]
the front end development efficiency[00:13:14.210]
so that you can reuse different[00:13:16.840]
front end elements over and over[00:13:18.879]
again. And you can[00:13:21.029]
easily style and chase us, and I’ll[00:13:23.039]
talk about that in a moment.[00:13:25.220]
Do you reuse and share model[00:13:27.830]
and control aspects of a nap with[00:13:29.840]
other channels[00:13:31.059]
in the same project?[00:13:32.720]
So let’s say you’re building a responsive Web[00:13:34.990]
application[00:13:36.240]
along with a new application[00:13:38.379]
that has hybrid[00:13:41.639]
capabilities.[00:13:43.240]
In addition to that, you can add native[00:13:45.500]
Mobile right in the same project and[00:13:47.600]
use the same domain model and use[00:13:49.809]
the same micro flows and functions[00:13:52.879]
to provide[00:13:54.690]
the appropriate user experience for[00:13:56.860]
the appropriate channel that[00:13:59.259]
the application is intended for.[00:14:03.340]
It’s easy to customize the properties[00:14:05.490]
for the widgets[00:14:07.139]
and the front and elements in the development[00:14:09.230]
experience because they’re all built[00:14:11.259]
with react.[00:14:12.940]
And that’s the great thing, because you get to take[00:14:15.039]
advantage of react natives extensive[00:14:17.460]
library[00:14:18.450]
of components through mend explicable[00:14:20.820]
widgets and JavaScript action capabilities.[00:14:23.460]
So if there’s a react which it you like to[00:14:25.509]
use, you can drop that in and start[00:14:27.549]
using it and create a reasonable component.[00:14:31.940]
Lastly,[00:14:33.919]
this combination of low code[00:14:36.240]
and react native together[00:14:38.389]
gives you the ability[00:14:39.970]
to spend more time focusing on solving the[00:14:42.049]
problem[00:14:42.960]
and enhancing the user and customer[00:14:45.009]
experience[00:14:46.129]
than spending time writing code,[00:14:48.740]
because that low code[00:14:50.470]
capability[00:14:51.769]
enables you to move faster[00:14:54.240]
and build that seem[00:14:56.440]
high quality output.[00:15:00.240]
So what we’ve accomplished at Bendix is an[00:15:02.299]
abstracted cross platform[00:15:04.389]
approach[00:15:05.309]
to delivering native mobile applications[00:15:07.690]
faster than traditional coating[00:15:09.899]
at a lower total cost[00:15:11.789]
without sacrificing quality[00:15:14.250]
in the output.[00:15:18.450]
Recently, I had the opportunity to[00:15:20.610]
collaborate on an application with my team.[00:15:23.639]
At first I was skeptical of what[00:15:25.830]
I’d be able to achieve, creating native[00:15:27.960]
pages and taking advantage of device[00:15:30.090]
functionality.[00:15:31.940]
What I found is that the developer experience[00:15:34.470]
is identical to building any other[00:15:36.769]
kind of medics application.[00:15:39.279]
It was really cool to be ableto add barcode[00:15:41.730]
scanning to the AP,[00:15:43.110]
sets in properties for styling in data[00:15:45.269]
can activity and then see the APP[00:15:47.470]
refresh happened over the air instantly[00:15:50.210]
and start using the capability[00:15:52.440]
that I just[00:15:53.669]
added to this application.[00:15:56.639]
I understand this sounds a bit self serving[00:15:58.740]
because I worked for medics.[00:16:00.529]
So let’s talk to a customer and learn[00:16:02.759]
more about their experience using[00:16:04.860]
medics to build native mobile[00:16:07.230]
applications.[00:16:12.240]
Today, I’m joined by Yost Landman[00:16:14.279]
from Rob a bank. Yost is a business[00:16:16.370]
architect using medics to build native[00:16:18.669]
mobile applications.[00:16:20.440]
Yost Thanks for being with us for low code[00:16:22.610]
and 30[00:16:23.940]
Thank you for inviting me. Great to be here.[00:16:27.100]
You tell our viewers a little bit about[00:16:29.250]
rob a bank and what it is that you do for the company.[00:16:32.940]
OK, Rob a bank is[00:16:35.049]
one of the three large banks[00:16:37.120]
in the Netherlands. Domestically, it’s focuses[00:16:39.610]
on retail banking, but internationally[00:16:42.019]
it’s primarily focused on[00:16:44.460]
banking for food, and this means we[00:16:46.700]
finance food and agriculture business[00:16:48.990]
and in that international area. My role[00:16:51.299]
as ah this is architect is to drive[00:16:53.529]
the architect You’re efficient and road map in[00:16:55.809]
both the domain of financing[00:16:58.470]
farmers[00:16:59.889]
and the domain of what we call[00:17:02.070]
international direct banking. And[00:17:04.170]
that’s all about online retail savings.[00:17:06.980]
Rabobank has been amended customer[00:17:09.230]
for a few years now. Can[00:17:11.250]
you tell me a little bit? Why[00:17:13.380]
rob a bank chose medics to develop[00:17:15.710]
applications a few years ago[00:17:17.759]
in this Ah, this area of online[00:17:20.049]
retail savings.[00:17:21.440]
We were going through a transformation[00:17:24.440]
for ah well, Rabobank, Belgium[00:17:26.769]
and hobble direct in Germany. Because[00:17:29.019]
over the years those banks have grown into,[00:17:31.160]
ah, situation[00:17:33.839]
where we had expensive beckoned systems[00:17:36.740]
at an online banking channel that was[00:17:39.460]
difficult and slow to change.[00:17:42.539]
This costs our savings money[00:17:44.829]
so that the savings that we gathered[00:17:46.900]
from retail customers[00:17:48.789]
to be quite expensive on.[00:17:50.960]
At the same time, the customer experience[00:17:53.130]
in that Web channel was liking behind[00:17:55.299]
compared to the competition.[00:17:57.789]
So we have decided Thio[00:17:59.970]
well, basically redesigned the complete I D[00:18:02.150]
landscape and[00:18:03.329]
for the online banking general, we chose[00:18:05.369]
to build it in such a way that would be[00:18:07.549]
faster change and at the same time, relatively[00:18:10.140]
low cost[00:18:11.440]
on the solution. We, ah, we found,[00:18:13.730]
was a combination of[00:18:16.940]
just a basic[00:18:18.240]
off the shelf web content management[00:18:20.410]
system.[00:18:21.309]
For all the static content in[00:18:23.359]
the Web channel[00:18:24.640]
with a no coat application[00:18:27.349]
platform to build all the interaction components[00:18:30.380]
on that no coats[00:18:31.829]
platform,[00:18:33.289]
the one we chose was medics[00:18:35.789]
because it ah, for us it stood out[00:18:38.009]
from its competition[00:18:39.980]
in ah, user[00:18:42.380]
interferes design and in beckoned[00:18:44.480]
integrations.[00:18:45.740]
So that’s how we, uh, came in contact with[00:18:47.819]
men dicks. And you have I[00:18:50.180]
remember hearing you spoke it. Ah,[00:18:52.190]
use book, a medics world. And I remember[00:18:54.390]
he’s starting off your presentation.[00:18:56.809]
You said[00:18:57.750]
1,000,000[00:19:00.200]
customers[00:19:01.220]
using our[00:19:02.730]
medics built, swept, gentle[00:19:04.789]
for online banking. Yes. So[00:19:07.109]
now you’re making native mobile[00:19:09.250]
APS[00:19:10.240]
with medics. And[00:19:12.640]
can you tell me a little bit about[00:19:14.740]
these mobile absent your building[00:19:16.859]
and the problems that they saw off?[00:19:19.240]
Yes. We’re gonna be building ah[00:19:21.279]
mobile labs for ah again Kabul,[00:19:23.390]
Bank Belgium, and have a direct in Germany.[00:19:26.740]
And, um,[00:19:27.980]
a couple of years ago, we actually had ah[00:19:30.369]
mobile app for, ah,[00:19:32.400]
aisles and Androids,[00:19:34.650]
but it just proved too expensive[00:19:36.829]
to maintain and to[00:19:39.069]
keep improving it.[00:19:40.740]
This is a fairly small team and[00:19:43.170]
there is a real cost pressure.[00:19:46.359]
So now, in order to[00:19:48.740]
at the same time keep the cost low,[00:19:50.750]
but also the customer experience high.[00:19:53.269]
We, um,[00:19:54.740]
wants to build our mobile app[00:19:57.339]
in the same technology as a Web channel[00:19:59.720]
so we can have the same team building[00:20:01.890]
and maintaining it[00:20:03.339]
on dhe and also so we can share[00:20:06.089]
of the technical components between the Web[00:20:08.170]
Channel and the mobile F General.[00:20:10.240]
We really wanted to build this mobile[00:20:12.329]
app with medics[00:20:14.440]
with the IOS and android app. So you have to maintain[00:20:16.789]
those separately and with a small[00:20:18.900]
team that becomes really difficult to do that.[00:20:21.549]
And one of the things[00:20:23.009]
with building the maid Native mobile[00:20:25.410]
app with Bendix is you get that cross[00:20:27.460]
platform capabilities that react native[00:20:29.630]
brings to the table so you can build[00:20:31.789]
once and basically deployed to two[00:20:33.940]
both operating systems. Is[00:20:35.990]
there something special about the native[00:20:38.250]
app versus going with a hybrid[00:20:40.890]
or with the progressive Web application[00:20:43.839]
that made you choose the native[00:20:45.890]
path versus some other options[00:20:48.069]
that you have in mobile application development.[00:20:51.599]
Yeah, we actually tried to build[00:20:53.920]
ah hybrid at first,[00:20:56.579]
So we tried to ah, drives[00:20:58.619]
the harbor bath initially,[00:21:01.819]
and ah,[00:21:02.970]
I have to tell you building and maintaining[00:21:05.059]
a mobile app that offers a[00:21:07.180]
good experience in the first[00:21:09.410]
place. But it’s also very[00:21:11.410]
secure, as you would expect for a bank is[00:21:13.430]
actually not that easy.[00:21:14.789]
And in our small team, we can’t[00:21:16.920]
have a lot of security[00:21:19.230]
expert. He’s on the floor. So we decided[00:21:21.539]
to use it off the shelf, authentication[00:21:24.740]
on basically security as decayed to give[00:21:26.910]
us a head start in that area[00:21:28.940]
and build a proof of concept integrating[00:21:31.920]
that security solution that has its[00:21:34.210]
own native screens for[00:21:36.240]
things like Logan and transaction signing. And we[00:21:38.289]
try to integrate that with ah, hybrid[00:21:40.549]
app built with Mannix.[00:21:43.539]
We got it working perfectly fine in the[00:21:45.549]
end, but[00:21:47.430]
well, we[00:21:48.880]
we realized while evaluating[00:21:50.880]
that technical skills that we would need[00:21:53.339]
to maintain this would be our[00:21:55.519]
to facilitating, is in a small development[00:21:57.980]
team because we will. We actually needed quite[00:22:00.250]
a few different technical skills[00:22:03.180]
to[00:22:04.200]
integrate the[00:22:05.579]
native part with the hybrid part,[00:22:08.640]
So he uses X Ken and switch[00:22:10.940]
from, Ah, hybrid screen doing native scream[00:22:13.230]
and back[00:22:15.140]
and, uh, come back in[00:22:17.460]
the right context.[00:22:20.259]
Right? And at the same time, we realized it’s well,[00:22:22.859]
as you know, building hybrid app.[00:22:25.349]
User experience will be,[00:22:28.809]
well, average at best.[00:22:32.539]
We just didn’t want to settle for that[00:22:36.019]
exactly that moment[00:22:37.740]
way[00:22:39.750]
were in contact with mandates. A[00:22:41.769]
ll the time, of course. But they they[00:22:44.329]
recognized it and offered[00:22:46.599]
this Ah, back then, brand new[00:22:48.690]
and still beta feature of react[00:22:50.950]
native[00:22:51.880]
on dhe. Well, that seemed to actually solve both[00:22:54.180]
the skills issue for us as well as that[00:22:56.240]
user experience issue.[00:22:59.339]
Perfect match.[00:23:00.940]
What’s their experience been like so far[00:23:03.460]
developing native Mobile with[00:23:05.470]
Bendix? What? What’s that been[00:23:07.619]
like and what they like about it?[00:23:10.039]
Well, the team tells me, um,[00:23:13.269]
that these modeling environments in[00:23:15.579]
Mannix ate it works like a charm. It’s ah,[00:23:18.640]
it was fully stable. Said it couldn’t actually build[00:23:20.890]
the features they[00:23:22.089]
they want to build in the sprint, and it works a[00:23:24.180]
nice and and also there. Ah,[00:23:27.190]
really excited. How are manic state?[00:23:29.410]
Makes it easy to write their ah,[00:23:31.759]
custom widgets to integrates with[00:23:34.059]
any react native libraries.[00:23:36.309]
That’s just amazing.[00:23:38.759]
I’ve I’ve been working[00:23:41.089]
with it now for the past[00:23:43.319]
few weeks in the preparation for[00:23:45.650]
this webinar and as[00:23:47.720]
someone who’s[00:23:49.220]
not a traditional developer[00:23:51.569]
but someone who’s learned to develop[00:23:53.569]
software over the years. I was[00:23:55.599]
just blown away by[00:23:57.140]
how easy the modeling environment[00:23:59.269]
makes it for you to be able[00:24:01.380]
to create these consumer great experiences[00:24:04.339]
and then go ahead[00:24:06.539]
and test them out and and see[00:24:09.329]
the result of that[00:24:11.650]
in such a short period of time. It’s just[00:24:14.170]
it’s just a great experience. I imagine your team[00:24:16.309]
feels very simple, amazing, with the basic[00:24:18.759]
understanding of how I D developments[00:24:21.240]
works[00:24:22.299]
that you actually able to do so much more[00:24:24.609]
with Bendix.[00:24:25.539]
It helps you doing the[00:24:27.619]
things that’s that[00:24:29.339]
before we’re only it[00:24:31.430]
could only be done by by[00:24:33.549]
experience. Development,[00:24:35.640]
yes, and in the platform basically[00:24:38.089]
helps them through the complete lifecycle[00:24:40.599]
management as well,[00:24:42.240]
so they can basically focus on delivering[00:24:44.640]
functionality instead of on[00:24:46.839]
on all the technical things that they[00:24:48.880]
also have to do in[00:24:51.400]
in other circumstances.[00:24:54.640]
Yeah, I’m also impressed You know, we’re[00:24:57.019]
now three releases into[00:24:59.839]
the general availability[00:25:01.900]
of the native mobile capabilities,[00:25:04.099]
and the R and D team and the[00:25:06.119]
products team are batting new functionality[00:25:08.539]
every month to the capability. I imagine[00:25:10.839]
your team is always watching[00:25:13.369]
what’s new coming out that they be ableto[00:25:15.990]
take advantage of in these Absent their building.[00:25:20.240]
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely[00:25:22.940]
well, Yost it’s great to hear[00:25:25.029]
that things are going so well for[00:25:27.150]
you at Rabobank and[00:25:29.460]
the progress that you’re making using[00:25:31.650]
Native Mobile and that it’s able to do[00:25:34.369]
the things that you needed to be able[00:25:36.470]
to do, especially with Bendix, to solve[00:25:38.559]
the problems that you have and also[00:25:40.940]
provide these consumer grade opportunities[00:25:43.200]
to customers.[00:25:44.140]
So thanks so much for your time and for joining[00:25:46.369]
us today. Thank[00:25:49.170]
you for having me[00:25:55.589]
to recap were all being trained[00:25:57.869]
to expect a frictionless customer[00:26:00.220]
experience from all of the channels[00:26:02.920]
companies and employers engage[00:26:05.460]
with us.[00:26:06.970]
The smartphone is a main driver[00:26:09.279]
for capturing more of our mind share,[00:26:12.039]
and it’s because makers of the apse[00:26:14.279]
know[00:26:15.230]
that users will interact with them or[00:26:17.670]
if the experience reduces friction[00:26:20.180]
and makes their lives easier.[00:26:25.940]
That’s why I’m Index gives you freedom[00:26:28.230]
to choose what kind of experience you[00:26:30.390]
want to deliver to your customers.[00:26:32.980]
The platform enables you to make hybrid[00:26:35.440]
P W A and native mobile[00:26:37.740]
applications, all from the same code[00:26:39.920]
base, so it becomes a business[00:26:42.089]
decision which technology you want to use[00:26:44.599]
to make your mobile application.[00:26:46.740]
What’s great is that there is this great[00:26:49.049]
reusability across all three[00:26:51.140]
mobile app types.[00:26:52.539]
So as your needs change men, Dicks[00:26:54.670]
makes it possible to reuse and adapt[00:26:57.369]
what you have[00:26:58.500]
to make your applications.[00:27:00.940]
As Yost Land been stated,[00:27:02.940]
Rob, a bank chose medics because[00:27:04.980]
it’s team can move fast, keep[00:27:07.309]
costs low and deliver[00:27:09.599]
a great customer experience all[00:27:11.660]
at the same time.[00:27:13.240]
In addition, his team enjoys the[00:27:15.259]
medics developer experience because it[00:27:17.289]
gives them the flexibility to model[00:27:19.809]
new features and extend their applications[00:27:22.589]
using the latest and greatest technologies.